@NGSC yes it always had same subnet, but evidently this stream has split, I'm past that now and have a live bridged router, but now I can only log into the host router, which is a problem because I...

@NGSC thanks for the reply, maybe it was a pc restart or power on/off at the router but its working now as expected the c7 wds router shows no internet connect light but it appears I can no longer...

@bbx screen shots of bridged router wds status run dhcp disabled

see attached screen shots for the bridged router showing "wds run" and the dhcp disabled to test the bridged router I thought it should have internet access from the host router, so I tried to ping...