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EAP615-Wall: mixed wired and wireless backhaul
EAP615-Wall: mixed wired and wireless backhaul
2024-04-01 20:09:04 - last edited 2024-04-03 18:53:21
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Now that the EAP615-Wall comes with Mesh support, I'm wondering whether the below setup, mixing wired and wireless backhaul, can work.

 

The choice for the EAP615-Wall is partly due to the need of a wall device as well as cutting corners by employing the extra LAN ports provided by the EAP615 to connect some devices directly to the wireless APs.

 

Many thanks!

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2024-04-03 18:51:07 - last edited 2024-04-03 18:53:21

  @p4f 

 

I haven't put my 615's in mesh mode yet, but I have a lot 225-outdoors meshed.  What you are proposing should work just fine.

 

In short, you are just powering via the ethernet jack, it will not detect any 'Ethernet Link' and so will not assume it's a wired/root AP.  It should begin broadcasting packets on the hidden 5G mesh SSID, and your one 'wired' 615AP should 'see' these and the controller should then report that the dummy AP's are available to be adopted.

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Re:EAP615-Wall: mixed wired and wireless backhaul
2024-04-02 09:23:46

 

p4f wrote

Now that the EAP615-Wall comes with Mesh support, I'm wondering whether the below setup, mixing wired and wireless backhaul, can work.

 

The choice for the EAP615-Wall is partly due to the need of a wall device as well as cutting corners by employing the extra LAN ports provided by the EAP615 to connect some devices directly to the wireless APs.

 

Many thanks!

Hi @p4f 

If the WiFi coverage of the EAP-Wall series can cover the whole network topology you mentioned, yes they should work via the mesh system.

 

But please note that the actual wireless data throughput and wireless coverage are not guaranteed. They will vary due to factors including network conditions, client limitations, and environmental factors, including building materials, obstacles, volume and density of traffic, and client location.

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Re:EAP615-Wall: mixed wired and wireless backhaul
2024-04-02 13:00:01

  @p4f 

 

Yes. This is precisely the scenario that makes a wall unit with Mesh capability so interesting, kudos to the TPlink team that dared make it happen :)

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2024-04-03 16:35:34

Hi @Hank21, thank you very much for your response.

 

I agree this may not be the best solution and wireless may suffer. My main concern is about EAP615-Wall being effectively capable of activating wireless backhaul. 

 

To get power, those wireless EAP615-Walls on the right of the diagram, would need a PoE injector (or PoE switch). However, there will be power but no data (hence calling them "dummy" in the diagram).

 

I'm unsure how EAP615 will react to this "atypical" situation:

 

a) Would backhaul work wirelessly, despite having the "dummy" PoE injector connected to the AP?

 

b) Or because there is a PoE injector connected to it, it would stay operating as a wired AP and as a consequence would not actually work in mesh mode.

 

Many thanks

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2024-04-03 18:51:07 - last edited 2024-04-03 18:53:21

  @p4f 

 

I haven't put my 615's in mesh mode yet, but I have a lot 225-outdoors meshed.  What you are proposing should work just fine.

 

In short, you are just powering via the ethernet jack, it will not detect any 'Ethernet Link' and so will not assume it's a wired/root AP.  It should begin broadcasting packets on the hidden 5G mesh SSID, and your one 'wired' 615AP should 'see' these and the controller should then report that the dummy AP's are available to be adopted.

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2024-06-25 07:37:54

  @d0ugmac1 late but additional confirmation... I have 3x EAP650. One as wired root AP (poe from switch). Two as wireless backhaul powered by the PoE injectors supplied with them in the box (no cable to switch) and configured to mesh to the root. Plug them in and they all appear for adoption. Unplug poe from either mesh AP and they show as disconnected. Replug and they get readopted and back online.

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2024-06-25 12:40:51

  @p4f 

 

Are you saying, with a wired root and two child wirelessly meshed APs, that if you remove power from either child, then they ALL show as disconnected?

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2024-06-25 19:37:45

  @d0ugmac1 

 

He is confirming an AP connected to PoE injector (no ethernet cable, just power) works in wireless blackhaul mode with no problems. 

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2024-06-25 19:51:35

  @d0ugmac1 

No, removing poe from one child results in its status being Disconnected (the root AP stays connected).

 

Also when you reconnect poe to the child I earlier said it re-Adopts, but I should have said its status shows as Provisioning while it reboots and reconnects to the root AP again (as per Mesh Uplink/Downlink and "favourite" settings).

 

You have to be patient. The whole reboot / reconnect process can take from 3 to 5 minutes.

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Re:EAP615-Wall: mixed wired and wireless backhaul
2024-10-22 15:04:09

UKJim wrote

  @d0ugmac1 late but additional confirmation... I have 3x EAP650. One as wired root AP (poe from switch). Two as wireless backhaul powered by the PoE injectors supplied with them in the box (no cable to switch) and configured to mesh to the root. Plug them in and they all appear for adoption. Unplug poe from either mesh AP and they show as disconnected. Replug and they get readopted and back online.

  @UKJim 

 

Hi, i would like to make a mesh network like your one, with 3 eap650 outdoor. Should i use a controller too? O i can just plug the main eap root in my router lan ethernet port using the poe injectors supplied and then connect other 2 wireless?

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2024-10-22 15:31:11

  @Minecraft1 

 

A controller is required for Mesh links to establish.  You can use the free software version to try it out.

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