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Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3

 
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Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3

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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
Friday

An absolute load of crock.

 

Already obtained matter 1.3 certification - specification was released May 2024 - it's taken that long to get certification for something which was already promised prior to customers purchasing? Bs!


"ensure cross-platform compatibility through technical adaptations with major smart ecosystems (e.g., Amazon Alexa, Google Home, etc.)"

 

What exactly are you testing that's taking this long? That the watts/kwh reading is accurate? Does that actually take months/almost a year to do?

 

I wouldn't be believing a word that comes out of tp-links mouths, remember, these are the same people that said this device was matter capable when you purchased it, assured that it would come last year, and now is saying more bs. Somehow this time they're expected to be trustworthy?

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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
Friday
Also, matter devices don’t need certification for individual implementations - that was the whole reason the matter standard was created. Devices adhere to the standard, and the platforms adhere to the same standard - you don’t need to certify, or test, your device across the platforms. So again, this is pure evidence that TP-Link yet again is deceiving and lying about it. Unless you see 1.3 update - assume that it’s not coming. TP-Link is getting caught in a web of lies and deception. If matter is important to you, DO NOT buy TP-Link
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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
15 hours ago - last edited 15 hours ago

> Already obtained matter 1.3 certification - specification was released May 2024 - it's taken that long to get certification for something which was already promised prior to customers purchasing?

 

While I am also waiting for the update and very dissapointed by the lack of communication, I think that this statement is a little unfair. First of all, they had Matter support, before Matter supported energy monitoring. That means, they were allowed to add the Matter logo on the product since it supported everything that Matter was able to do at that time. In my opinion this is a problem in Matter itself, especially as long as the standard lacks a lot of basic functionality. I don't know how this issue could be solved in the standard though.

 

Also you should not forget, that they had to implement this feature and certify it. The implementation certainly takes some time, especially since it is a free update for a product already on the market. The product sells already and most users probably don't care about Matter that much that the update will increase the sales significantly. Not trying to protect them but without knowing the internal processes needed for such an update, I don't think we should bring up statements like this.

If the device really is certified already (shouldn't there be a page to check that?) the update shouldn't take that long anymore so let's hope they didn't lie.

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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
15 hours ago

  @Springrbua 

 

I guess the biggest issue is the product packaging didn't differentiate that the power monitoring was only on WiFi.

 

if you are heavily invested in matter than you may have known that matter did not support PM at the time, but for those who didn't, they aren't exactly going to be happy with such a long wait.

 

However, I've experienced the same TP Link garbage with DECO routers. Despite the biggest request being for a web UI, they ignore it and don't even acknowledge the posters anymore.

 

No more TPLink for me...

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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
14 hours ago
I understand that and from a users point of view this is really annoying. But form a producers point of view, the product was fully Matter compatible at that time. Adding a "Note: Energy monitoring does not work with Matter" is probably not something that increases the sales. So again, that is, in my opinion a problem with the Matter standard or certification process. They should probably require the manufacturers to bring relevant updates for a certain amount of time, so that I as a user can expect the devices to support new features as soon as they are part of the standard. So again, I am not trying to protect them but if the update comes in the next few month, the time it took is in my opionion still ok. What I don't like is the lack of communication especially in this thread
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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
14 hours ago

  @Springrbua 

 

No sorry. There's are no "ZigBee energy monitoring" plugs that require you to download an app and the energy monitoring only works on wifi. Or maybe a "wifi enabled plug" that tells you the status but doesn't allow control. The whole point of matter is to normalise the ecosystem. This isn't a "matter plug". It's advertised as energy monitoring. It's akin to buying a car with android auto but finding out in only works for maps and you can't play music

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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
13 hours ago

  @MoleCamper It would be the same, if Android Auto doesn't support playing music. I don't have a car with Android myself but I recently watched a video where they said, that most manufacturers don't support the latest Android Auto version as they don't want to give all control to them. So if thats true, you essentially have the exact same issue there.

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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
13 hours ago

  @Springrbua "While I am also waiting for the update and very dissapointed by the lack of communication, I think that this statement is a little unfair."

How is it unfair?

  • TP-Link make a big deal out of matter support on their marketing for this, if you look at the official website - atleast 20% of the page layout is dedicated to matter, because matter is the differentiator between this and the P110 - you pay more for the M. So whilst you call out that it's not a big deal - TP-Link certainly things it's a big deal to a) charge more for it, and b) make it a big part of their marketing.
  • There are no call outs anywhere that Matter is not supported for the energy monitor - you shouldn't need to know the matter specifications. I don't know about you, but I don't read specifications every time I pick up a box from the shelf. I don't think any reasonable person does.
  • This is explicitly marketed as an energy monitor
  • Don't forget that Matter 1.3 didn't actually stop others from releasing energy monitor support - Eve had support for their devices even without the matter 1.3 spec.
  • Any reasonable person would think that all of the above makes for deceptive marketing

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Re:Tapo P110M update for Matter 1.3
8 hours ago

  @Cammm 

I agree that there should be a note that energy monitoring with Matter is not supported yet and I agree that "Matter" and "energy monitoring" are way to close together on the webpage and this is deceptive marketing for me as well.

What I don't agree with is just this sentence:
>  it's taken that long to get certification for something which was already promised prior to customers purchasing?


Certification take some time for sure, the implementation takes some time as well and implementing a free update will definitely not have the highest priority in their development team. Also, there was nothing promised, since Matter did simply not (officially) support energy monitoring at the time the product was certified. So the product was certified and they are allowed to use the logo what they obviously do.

 

> Don't forget that Matter 1.3 didn't actually stop others from releasing energy monitor support

But they don't have to to get the certification. It is cool that some companies took that extra step to provide the consumers some usefull features but most companies don't do that. In the end they want profit and all they need for that is the certification so that they can add the fancy logo on their product.

 

I think the problem is that a product can be Matter certified without supporting all of the (future) features of the standard, but that is something that has to be solved in the certification process. If not, there will always be Matter certified devices that only support a few things with Matter and require cloud or manufacturer app for other things.

 

At least we have the information that the product is certified so lets hope the update rolls out soon.

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