Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?

Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?

Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?
Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?
2024-08-20 21:12:24 - last edited 2024-08-21 00:52:32
Model: ER605 (TL-R605)  
Hardware Version: V2
Firmware Version: Unknown

Hi,   we have a Omada system that was installed by a company.   We were not provided any login info to the admin section, Omada cloud etc. 

We have asked for the sytem to be transferred to our control for various issues.   The installer seems to be unable or unwilling to transfer the system or provide local login details.  The system has been fully paid for.

The Omada system is:

ER605 VPN Router V2
OC200 Hardware controller V2
TP-Link Switch
3+ TPLink Access Points

What do we need to do to be able to access the system without having to hard reset the whole system?  
Can we just reset the Controller?  
Do we have to throw the Controller away and buy a new one?

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2024-08-21 00:52:27 - last edited 2024-08-21 00:52:32

Hi @TDCanada 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

Any sort of reset will lose the config. Resetting the controller would lead to the complete loss of the config. You are gonna restart everything if you do that.

If you only reset the router, this will only reset the config on the router. If the router is adopted back to the controller, the config will be synced to the router again.

 

You can reset the controller instead of buying a new one which wastes your money. Get it reset and if you are aware of what I wrote above. Reset it and you can get control of it. Then set it up yourself without your installer's intervention.

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2024-08-21 00:52:27 - last edited 2024-08-21 00:52:32

Hi @TDCanada 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

Any sort of reset will lose the config. Resetting the controller would lead to the complete loss of the config. You are gonna restart everything if you do that.

If you only reset the router, this will only reset the config on the router. If the router is adopted back to the controller, the config will be synced to the router again.

 

You can reset the controller instead of buying a new one which wastes your money. Get it reset and if you are aware of what I wrote above. Reset it and you can get control of it. Then set it up yourself without your installer's intervention.

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Re:Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?
2024-08-21 02:20:46

  @Clive_A 

Thanks for your response.   Maybe I'm misunderstanding what your staying. 

Do no reset the controller, as that will nuke everything. 

Reset the Router - that's ok, it will get the config from the Controller.

How do we get control over the controller then?

I'd really rather not have to set everything up again from scatch and have to learn the whole system to do that.  

Surley, TP-Link has a way to ensure that installers don't hold equipment owners hostage?


If we do reset everything, will that dis-associate all the Omada gear form the controller, allowing us to add it to the "new" system?  Controller, Router, Switch, AP's etc?

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Re:Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?
2024-08-21 03:29:54

Hi @TDCanada 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

TDCanada wrote

  @Clive_A 

Thanks for your response.   Maybe I'm misunderstanding what your staying. 

Do no reset the controller, as that will nuke everything. 

Reset the Router - that's ok, it will get the config from the Controller.

How do we get control over the controller then?

I'd really rather not have to set everything up again from scatch and have to learn the whole system to do that.  

Surley, TP-Link has a way to ensure that installers don't hold equipment owners hostage?


If we do reset everything, will that dis-associate all the Omada gear form the controller, allowing us to add it to the "new" system?  Controller, Router, Switch, AP's etc?

Just FYI. If the controller stays, it always holds the config. When you adopt it at any time, the config will sync to the devices. That's how Omada Controller works.

 

Reset the controller, that'll remove everything and you start from scratch. Nuke everything is inevitable.

The way is to nuke everything which is the way to get rid of your installer roughly. Then start to rebuild everything.

 

Yes. That'll be a new system. You adopt them to the new controller, then it'll reset them anyway. The adoption equals a reset. That's the first thing it does. That'll start over. Since you don't know the password to adopt the devices, you need to physically reset them first.

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Re:Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?
2024-08-25 02:48:18

So we ended up having to reset things.  Resetting the controller DID NOT reset the router or AP's.  Each had to be accessed and manually reset and re-added to the system.   

Not too impressed by the hassle or the software of the system.

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Re:Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?
2024-08-26 06:19:09

Hi @TDCanada 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

TDCanada wrote

So we ended up having to reset things.  Resetting the controller DID NOT reset the router or AP's.  Each had to be accessed and manually reset and re-added to the system.   

Not too impressed by the hassle or the software of the system.

It's normal because you have to clear up everything. You have to clear everything up because you don't have access to the controller.

If you can regain access to the controller, you don't have to reconfigure as the settings are stored on the controller and you can have access to it.

 

The config on the system should be assigned by the controller. If you don't even gain the controller access, there is no way that you can keep the old settings on the devices. Think of this, when you manage them from a new controller(or a reset controller), what should the controller do to the devices that have a stored config? It is the controller managing the devices instead of the devices sending the config to the controller. That's against the whole concept of the controller thing.

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Re:Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?
2024-08-27 16:26:00

  @Clive_A 

Probably the biggest thing was that we were told by TP-Link support that a reset of the controller would reset and release the router and all AP's.  That's not what happened, we had to access and manually reset each device.  So the time scale grew.   

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Re:Access System that installer has abandoned - How to?
2024-08-28 01:01:12

Hi @TDCanada 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

TDCanada wrote

  @Clive_A 

Probably the biggest thing was that we were told by TP-Link support that a reset of the controller would reset and release the router and all AP's.  That's not what happened, we had to access and manually reset each device.  So the time scale grew.   

If you experience incorrect guidance over the product, you can file a complaint to the agent with his/her name. Proper training should be implemented.

 

About the "installer", we actually do NOT have any partnered installer. All of our partnerships are mainly about retail. Only retailers: https://www.tp-link.com/ca/where-to-buy/

We basically have no partnership with the installer. If they purchase and have a pile of our products in their stock, that could be a partner. But our retail sources do not offer technical support. All the technical support is supposed to come from our technical support team.

 

The so-called installers are all solution companies buying various products from different vendors. Just a bunch of people who know about the products and pick up the product for their customers. They profit from the knowledge and the price difference.

If there are any civil issues between you and the installers, we cannot really step in and control them as they don't belong to us. If they hold you hostage in the situation, that's a big failure in their reputation as a solution company.

 

And we cannot view the customers' info or look it up due to privacy and data protection. There is no way we can access it and we have to get granted before we access anyone's system/controller. The email and the password should be provided by the customers, too.

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