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Dear Expert,
I've a case, where I need to setup a wireless network in a auditorium where 400 people can sit together.
We need such a robust and sophisticated WiFi network so that 400 people can browse internet concurrently.
Auditorium size is around 6000 square feet.
Please suggest us what kind of network and device we need to deploy here.
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Dear Expert,
I've a case, where I need to setup a wireless network in a auditorium where 400 people can sit together.
We need such a robust and sophisticated WiFi network so that 400 people can browse internet concurrently.
Auditorium size is around 6000 square feet.
Please suggest us what kind of network and device we need to deploy here.
Best Regards.
Banik
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Re:High density WiFI solution
2017-07-20 00:20:03
I would use a bunch of EAP320/EAP330 with high wireless throughput in order to provide AirTIme to as much people as possible. In theory, you would need at least 8 or so EAPs to handle 400 clients, but in practice it a) strongly depends on the surf pattern of the clients and b) will cause interferences in the 2.4 GHz band, since you only have 4 non-overlapping channels in 802.11n mode and only 3 non-overlapping channels in 802.11b/g modes. Are all 400 people really on-line at once?
We once supplied a big happing with WiFi and there were ~3.000 visitors, but only 100 to 150 actually using WiFi in the break room at any given time. We used four dual band WiFi routers configured to different channels, 20 MHz channel width and low TX power to have each AP just supply one of four quadrants of the area without disturbing the signals of the remaining APs. If you want to set up such a topology, you should measure signal and SNR ratio of the devices before-hand with a professional WiFi analyzer such as NetSpot.
We once supplied a big happing with WiFi and there were ~3.000 visitors, but only 100 to 150 actually using WiFi in the break room at any given time. We used four dual band WiFi routers configured to different channels, 20 MHz channel width and low TX power to have each AP just supply one of four quadrants of the area without disturbing the signals of the remaining APs. If you want to set up such a topology, you should measure signal and SNR ratio of the devices before-hand with a professional WiFi analyzer such as NetSpot.
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Re:High density WiFI solution
2017-07-20 11:19:44
Thanks for your reply.
Yes. all 400 client must be connected with a server. But the data, is minimal. It will be an web based examination. Only text data are here.
So 8 or 10 EAP 320/330 will be enough for this?
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Yes. all 400 client must be connected with a server. But the data, is minimal. It will be an web based examination. Only text data are here.
So 8 or 10 EAP 320/330 will be enough for this?
Best Regards.
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Re:High density WiFI solution
2017-07-20 17:23:28
Theoretically, one EAP330/320 is usually recommended to connect 25~30 clients for each band (2.4GHz and 5GHz), while the real connections depends, you need to consider 3 factors below:
1. Due to the minimal data, the connections capability might be relative higher;
2. If all clients are crowded, near with each other, then the 2.4GHz will be so congested ,which will reduce the connection capability;
3. You also need to consider whether your clients support both 2.4GHz and 5GHz? If not , how many clients will support 5GHz? Besides, you can enable 'band steering' feature to lead dual band clients connect to 5GHz in priority.
1. Due to the minimal data, the connections capability might be relative higher;
2. If all clients are crowded, near with each other, then the 2.4GHz will be so congested ,which will reduce the connection capability;
3. You also need to consider whether your clients support both 2.4GHz and 5GHz? If not , how many clients will support 5GHz? Besides, you can enable 'band steering' feature to lead dual band clients connect to 5GHz in priority.
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Re:High density WiFI solution
2017-07-20 19:41:51
Perfectly answered by winstar.
No, I would not just recommend 10 EAPs without having measured the effects of installing more then 4 devices in the room b/c of congestion of the 2.4 GHz band. That's what I tried to make clear with my reply. You can probably handle up to 2x30 clients with one EAP and possible some more, but since the 2.4 GHz is not only limited, but uses overlapping channels, just increasing the number of devices will not help much. Keep in mind that at any given time only one device can use a (non-overlapping) WiFi channel. So if you use 4 non-overlapping channels in the 2.4 Ghz band (possible with 802.11n), then only 1 out of 100 users can allocate the channel at a given time,a ll others are silenced until they get a free slot in time. This sets the limit.
No, I would not just recommend 10 EAPs without having measured the effects of installing more then 4 devices in the room b/c of congestion of the 2.4 GHz band. That's what I tried to make clear with my reply. You can probably handle up to 2x30 clients with one EAP and possible some more, but since the 2.4 GHz is not only limited, but uses overlapping channels, just increasing the number of devices will not help much. Keep in mind that at any given time only one device can use a (non-overlapping) WiFi channel. So if you use 4 non-overlapping channels in the 2.4 Ghz band (possible with 802.11n), then only 1 out of 100 users can allocate the channel at a given time,a ll others are silenced until they get a free slot in time. This sets the limit.
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2017-07-22 15:22:22
all clients are capable of having both.
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2017-07-22 18:42:18
Then the EAP330 with band steering and antenna beamforming would be the right choice to support as much as 50 to 60 clients simultaneously, maybe even more.
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2017-07-24 17:22:33
Thanks for your help. :)
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