Adding second switch causing latency and DNS issues

Adding second switch causing latency and DNS issues

Adding second switch causing latency and DNS issues
Adding second switch causing latency and DNS issues
Tuesday - last edited Tuesday
Model: TL-SG108PE  
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I have recently added a 2nd switch to my network and since then I have issues with high latency and not being able to resolve DNS. The reason for the second switch was to enable me to add a HDMI over ethernet extender for the CCTV as the NVR is in the loft and the TV is in the living room.

 

This was setup:

Asus Router >>>>TL-SG108PE Switch>>>>>single cat 6 cable>>>>>TL-SG105E>>>>>>Connected to CCTV NVR

 

I also have an wifi node connected via cat 6 cable from the router to a node on the first floor for wifi backhauled to the router over the ethernet. This all worked fine.

 

I then added the HDMI extender as below and thats when the issues started.

 

So downstairs I have the HDMI reciever plugged into the TL-SG108PE switch along with xbox, virgin box, android box etc. There is then a single cat 6 cable that goes from switch in the liviung room to the TL-SG105E switch in the loft. This switch then has the CCTV NVR and the HDMI transmitter plugged into it. The HDMI extender works fine but the network has issues such as latency suddenly shooting up to over 100ms and thins like the xbox and access point not being to resolve DNS queries. I have not added any confiig to the switches.

 

Is there anything I have missed? I dont understand why this extender would cause such issues.

 

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@Luke1404, second description sounds different than the first, but I don't think it matters; sending the HDMI data over your network can cause problems.  If you follow the path from the HDMI transmitter to the HDMI receiver any switch or router it passes through could have issues.  Also, if the HDMI device is broadcasting it's data, then anything on that network could be impacted.  Your HDMI extender's documenation may have some specific guidance.  I pulled up one at random and it claims to work if you set it up in a VLAN.  If you have something similar it might work.

 

NETWORK DISTRIBUTION – Connect up to 30 receivers per transmitter. 1-to-many configuration through 1) Unmanaged/Dedicated Gigabit switches, 2) Smart Gigabit switches with VLAN to segregate video traffic from the rest of the LAN. Many-to-many configuration is also supported via VLAN setups. Note that each VLAN can only accommodate 1 transmitter (TX). *Note: Home routers are not recommended

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Hi @Luke1404,


The HDMI over IP devices (I assume you have either HDBitT or HDBaseT) can generate a lot of traffic on a switch and it's best to avoid this.  HDBitT is probably the worst for a switch because it has a broadcast feature that allows one transmitter it to be used with multiple receivers.  From what I recall the HDBitT guidance is to use it on a dedicated switch or at least a switch where the extender's data can be 100% isolated.  HDBaseT is point to point with it's own POC so it's not really intended to work with a switch.  HDBaseT can push 18Gbps for some video formats, so you can see how that would be a problem on your hardware.

 

I don't know that the data packets and the HDMI packets can coexist nicely and if they do, one or both may not work optimally given you have a shared physical wire linking your two switches.  If you want to try to make it work, you'll need to isolate the traffic, prevent the HDMI data from consuming all of the bandwidth and hope that things usually work.

 

Better to run another cat6 cable (or more) or try a wireless extender.

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  @D-C 

 

thanks for the reply. The switch in the loft is essentially isolated. the cable runs from the router tonthe switch and then from the switch is the NVR and extender. neither of these have issues. 

 

the downstairs switch that is connected to a different port on the router and not connected at all to tye loft switch is the one that has connected devices with issues. 

 

whilst i know this isnt true isolation there is no need for anything from the main switch downstairs to go via the router to access the other switch 

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@Luke1404, second description sounds different than the first, but I don't think it matters; sending the HDMI data over your network can cause problems.  If you follow the path from the HDMI transmitter to the HDMI receiver any switch or router it passes through could have issues.  Also, if the HDMI device is broadcasting it's data, then anything on that network could be impacted.  Your HDMI extender's documenation may have some specific guidance.  I pulled up one at random and it claims to work if you set it up in a VLAN.  If you have something similar it might work.

 

NETWORK DISTRIBUTION – Connect up to 30 receivers per transmitter. 1-to-many configuration through 1) Unmanaged/Dedicated Gigabit switches, 2) Smart Gigabit switches with VLAN to segregate video traffic from the rest of the LAN. Many-to-many configuration is also supported via VLAN setups. Note that each VLAN can only accommodate 1 transmitter (TX). *Note: Home routers are not recommended

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