Hii @R1D2 

My ISP just give me a router with 1 WAN port and 4 LAN port 

1 LAN port for my computer running EAP controller Software 24/7

So i think I will deploying 3 EAP

Thx for the reply

Hi @geraikenangan,

I would recommend that you also get an OC-200 and a small Ethernet switch (e.g. 8 port or so with or without PoE, potentially with VLAN suport).  Place the switch in between your ISP's router and connect the EAP's and OC-200 to it.

Over what square area do you expect to have 200 STA's all streaming video?

-Jonathan

It would also be interesting to compare the multi user performance/capacity of the EAP245 vs the 225.  Theoretically, the 245 should support a few more simultaneous users given that it is 3x3, but only if the MU-MIMO is actually working (on both the AP and the client(s)).

Still having multiple additional 225's is a better approach if they can be spaced far enough apart,

@R1D2 If you have usage statistics for your 3 EAPs please consider to share them with the forum. It's always interesting to see real-world figures for different places.

Hii R1D2 

InshAllah :)

@JSchnee21 Over what square area do you expect to have 200 STA's all streaming video?

Well my longest house user position is 250meter from my house

So its 200 user radius is 250meter in 360 degree with so many barrier (building, trees, steel,ect)

at night they all watch youtube before sleep

@JSchnee21 

Hii Jonathan

Still having multiple additional 225's is a better approach if they can be spaced far enough apart,

1 EAP225 is about IDR 1.200.000

1 EAP110 is about IDR 520.000

2 TL-ANT2412D is about 2x380.000 = IDR 760.000

Total is about IDR 1.280.000

becouse the differen price is not significant, then which one is better range?

@JSchnee21 

Hii Jonathan,

EAP245 is not an option, because i need an outdoor ap

EAP225 Outdoor is an option

So better what option:

3 EAP225 Outdoor with Mesh can handle 50 user simultaneously with antena 2.4 GHz: 3 dBi and 5 GHz: 4 dBi and 2x2 MIMO

Price 3x1.200.000 = IDR 3.600.000

or

3 EAP225 Outdoor without Mest can handle 150 user simultaneously with antena 2.4 GHz: 3 dBi and 5 GHz: 4 dBi and 2x2 MIMO​​​​​​​

Price 3x1.200.000 = IDR 3.600.000

or 

3 EAP110 + 4 TL-ANT2412D can handle 150 user simultaneously with antena 2.4 GHz: 12 dBi and 2x2 MIMO​​​​​​​

note: only 4 TL-ANT2412D for 2 EAP110 and 1 EAP110 default antena for 50 shortest user

Price 3x520.000 + 4x380.000 = 1.560.000 + 1.520.000 = IDR 3.080.000

or

the competitor

1 Ubiquit* UniF* FlexHD can handle 100 user simultaneously with antena 2.4 GHz: 1.6 dBi and 5 GHz: 4 dBi and 4x4 MU-MIMO

price IDR 3.000.000

Thx

Hi @geraikenangan,

Wow, okay, that's a big area.  And you are planning for a lot of users and a lot of concurrent activity.  Didn't realize this was outdoor until now.   I assume these are mostly smart phones/tablets which folks will use for internet access, txting, streaming, etc?

And the users are inside of their homes spread out over this area?  What kinds of materials are houses/rooves made?  Block, Brick, Adobe, metal?

I would definately go with the EAP225-Outdoor over the EAP110.  You'll need a lot of them.  Can you hardwire (Ethernet) them all?  Wireless MESH doesn't work well with when you have a high degree of user concurrency.

Sticking with the Circle concept, I'd start with 5 hardwired EAP225-Outdoor in a "plus sign" configuration:

              *

          100m

* 100m  *  100m *

          100m

              *

* = EAP225-Outdoor

But this is still ~40 users per AP, and if the houses have cinderblock walls and metal rooves indoor signal levels are going to be poor.  You might have to go to more of a 3x3 arrangement.  Something like this.  Or 2, 3, 2.

* 100m  *  100m *

          100m

* 100m  *  100m *

          100m

* 100m  *  100m *

This will bring the number of users per EAP down to a much more manageable level and will help to get much better in building penetration.  The real issue will be the clients (STA's) transmitting back to AP's.  Getting their signals out of their houses up to your AP's.

I'd probably use band steering to tray and spread the users out across two radios per EAP.  Alternatively, you could potentially limit clients to using the 2.4GHz radio and use the 5.8GHz for wireless MESH backhaul.  Though I would strongly encourage hardwiring if you truely expect to have 200 active, concurrent user.

You'll definately need an OC-200 to manage things.  I beleive the EAP225 Outdoors use 24V and not 48V, so I'm not sure a regular PoE switch will do it.  You might need to use the power injectors.

Your other problem will be that Ethernet is limited to 100meters, so you'll need to put an Ethernet switch every 100m (e.g. one in the center) and wire out to each "spoke."

There are dedicated wireless backhaul options as well:

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/outdoor-radio/cpe510/

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/outdoor-radio/cpe210/

-Jonathan