EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3

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EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3
EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3
2019-05-17 07:37:32 - last edited 2019-08-23 01:11:17
Model: EAP225  
Hardware Version: V3
Firmware Version:

Hi all,

 

I‘m running a couple of EAP225 using Omada Controller.

Now I consider adding another EAP and was wondering if it’s worth spending the markup for an EAP245. 

I know the tech specs for both but I interested in any real life experience if there are any significant advantages (e.g. range etc.) that speak for the 245 over the 225.

As a side note, it’s rather a small network with max 30 clients (including streaming and media sharing).

Any advise is more than welcome.

 

Thanks

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2019-08-22 21:39:45 - last edited 2019-08-23 01:11:17

I have 2 x 245 V3 and 3 x 225 V3 all latest FW and i can't say i am noticing much in the way of differences or issues on either.

 

The 245s are better if you are pulling large files over the network and you have capable devices that suport the higher speeds and/or 3x3 MIMO or your clients are MU-MIMO aware, otherwise there is not much in it, if all clients are simply browing the web or downloading smaller files, you're not likely to notice much in the way of a difference.

 

If you want future proofed devices, then the 245 might suit you better, if you plan to replace the APs in a couple of years or so and do not require high speeds on individual clients, the 225s will be a better deal, cheaper and if you put 3 in vs 2 245s you also get a split of the load between the APs

 

Really depends what you need

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Re:Re:EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3
2019-05-20 03:55:55

Questionmark wrote

I'm also wondering about this.  One thing that I noticed (and that I think is a kinda big deal) is that the EAP225_v3 has more recent firmware as of right now.  Apparently there are some issues with the new firmware on the EAP245_v3 that are still getting worked out.  Check out the changelogs.  Some of the features are pretty useful, and currently only avalible on the EAP225.

 

I'm interested to hear what anyone else has to add...

 

Hi,

 

The new firmware of EAP245v3 is depeloying now, we will publish it later. Compare with EAP225v3 and EAP245v3, they support similar functions, but EAP245v3 has higher wireless speed and performance.

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2019-05-20 15:46:09

Personally, I dont see the justification in spending extra for EAP 245.

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Re:EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3
2019-08-22 09:49:29

jonas wrote

Questionmark wrote

I'm also wondering about this.  One thing that I noticed (and that I think is a kinda big deal) is that the EAP225_v3 has more recent firmware as of right now.  Apparently there are some issues with the new firmware on the EAP245_v3 that are still getting worked out.  Check out the changelogs.  Some of the features are pretty useful, and currently only avalible on the EAP225.

 

I'm interested to hear what anyone else has to add...

 

Hi,

 

The new firmware of EAP245v3 is depeloying now, we will publish it later. Compare with EAP225v3 and EAP245v3, they support similar functions, but EAP245v3 has higher wireless speed and performance.

 

EAP245V3 has only 4 channels for 5 Ghz and at this moment no MESH support.

The EAP225V3 has many 5 Ghz channels and MESH support.

 

Cheers,

Meetriks

 

 

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Re:EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3
2019-08-22 14:11:51

Questionmark wrote

@Meetriks, are you certain about only having four 5GHz channels on the EAP245v3?  It does not have DFS support yet, but it should still be able to use the UNII-1 and UNII-3 bands for a total of 9 channels.  What regulatory domain are you in?

 

Yes, the EAP245v3 does not support mesh, but TP-Link says they are going to add support.

 

Also, I'll note that the EAP245_v3 does theoretically have better performance than the EAP225_v3, but only when used with capable clients and at short range.  Most of the time, you won't be able to see a major difference between the two.

 

Hi,

 

I'm running the EU version. I'm location in Netherlands.  And yes only 4 channels.

I think beamvorming would be more effective due to more antenna's and same for mu-mimo.
So having multi clients with 866 should go better with the 245v3.

 

Cheers,

Meetriks
 

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2019-08-22 21:39:45 - last edited 2019-08-23 01:11:17

I have 2 x 245 V3 and 3 x 225 V3 all latest FW and i can't say i am noticing much in the way of differences or issues on either.

 

The 245s are better if you are pulling large files over the network and you have capable devices that suport the higher speeds and/or 3x3 MIMO or your clients are MU-MIMO aware, otherwise there is not much in it, if all clients are simply browing the web or downloading smaller files, you're not likely to notice much in the way of a difference.

 

If you want future proofed devices, then the 245 might suit you better, if you plan to replace the APs in a couple of years or so and do not require high speeds on individual clients, the 225s will be a better deal, cheaper and if you put 3 in vs 2 245s you also get a split of the load between the APs

 

Really depends what you need

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Re:EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3
2020-04-05 16:46:15

Wile I know many of us are waiting for Wifi 6, the reality of this is that it will take a few years before most clients are Wifi 6.

 

In the mean time I'd really like to see an "EAP255" with the following spec's:

 

1) DFS Support for the USA -- for 3 (or 4?) usable 80MHz channels in the USA

2) 3 radios (1x 2.4GHz, and 2x5.8GHz) for dedicated wireless MESH (ideally over DFS w/enhanced antennas for better wireless backhaul reach) or more clients in a small area

3) at least 4x4 MIMO on all radios for better MU-MIMO support of 1x, 2x, and 3x clients

4) dual 2.5Gbit/sec Ethernet with passthrough (ideally PoE passthrough if possible)

5) all Enterprise class chipsets, amplifiers, and other components

 

Better reporting features for the OC200 ability to view, export, graph data over time (days, weeks, months).  Better alarming and notification with user configurable thresholds.

 

-Jonathan

 

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Re:EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3
2020-08-22 13:59:11
SDN Compatible firmware with official MESH support was recently released. Any updates on whether the 4x4 radios provide any practical benefit for MU-MIMO? Theoretically it should, but in practice, MU-MIMO functionality (like a lot of the newer WiFi "features") can be pretty hit or miss and client/AP dependent.
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Re:EAP225 v3 versus EAP245 V3
2020-08-22 16:34:41 - last edited 2020-08-22 17:28:08

@JSchnee21, if you have two 2x2 MIMO clients the EAP245 will use 2 spatial streams for device #1 and two spatial streams for device #2 (that's the »MU« in »MU-MIMO«, which stands for »Multi-User«).

 

@Meetriks, I see 16 channels in the 5 GHz band in my EAP245 with EU firmware 2.4.0 Build 20200117. It covers the U-NII-1, U-NII-2A and U-NII-2C bands except the 20 MHz wide channels 132, 136 and 140 from the latter band. You therefore have 4x 80 MHz wide channels which actually are 16x 20 MHz wide channels (and 64 channels in total):

 

 

 

 

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