@larryg the problem is that is not "overnight". maybe my original post wasn't clear, trying to set lights to for example go on at dusk, off at sunrise. So its lets say on at 6pm, off the next morning...

@Tony setting up schedules Tony wrote @larryg Are you referring to away mode or setting up schedules?

So one would think controlling a light via an outlet vs a time would give you the same options - go on in the evening, lets say 8pm and go off in the early monring, lets set 5am. Doesn't seem...